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Quickly spotting DX bug?

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I'm guessing this is a bug and not meant to be that way:
By following the manuals instructions for "quickly spotting dx" there seems to be a bug.
After entering the dx call then clicking the Green Globe I enter the spot info in the window that pops up. I then click "send".
At that point I would expect the contact to be logged. But, immediately another "send spot" window pops up. At this point I either have to go back to the callsign window and click "enter/return" or click the green "add" button on the far right.
Am I missing something? If this is not a bug could a selectable feature be added to "spot dx on entry"?

Thanks in advance,
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K4INC wrote:After entering the dx call then clicking the Green Globe I enter the spot info in the window that pops up. I then click "send".

At that point I would expect the contact to be logged. But, immediately another "send spot" window pops up. At this point I either have to go back to the callsign window and click "enter/return" or click the green "add" button on the far right.
No this is not a "Bug" it is by design

However I don't understand how you are getting the second spotting dialog to appear I have just tried spotting a call using a Windows XP, 7 & 10 machine with Log4OM versions 1.22. 1.23 & 1.24 and in all cases once the spot has been sent no further spot dialog appears.

BTW it saves us a lot of time in trying to emulate your issue if you state what Windows operating system and log4OM version you are using when seeking assistance.
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Sorry Terry,
I have put it in other reports and just forgot on this one. It is Win XP sp3.
If it would log it as soon as i click "send spot" that would be fine. But at present it doesn't. I've tried it on two different XP machines with same result.
I enter the info in the spot window and click "send spot" at that point the contact still remains in the entry window not logged.
(see photo spot1)
At that point I hit "enter" a second time still trying to save the contact to the log and another spot window pops up in a different place. (see photo spot2)
I could probably send a video if you like instead of screen shots.
At this point my only option is to click the green "add" button or clear the screen and re enter the contact without spotting.

Randy
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K4INC wrote:I enter the info in the spot window and click "send spot"
I don't think that you are clicking 'Send spot' as shown below
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at that point the contact still remains in the entry window not logged.
That is how its supposed to work
At that point I hit "enter" a second time still trying to save the contact to the log and another spot window pops up in a different place.
Hitting 'Enter' is not the way to send the spot - You must click on 'Send spot'

The process should be

1. Click 'Send spot' in the spotting dialog - The spot is sent and spot window closes - QSO details retained for editing or adding to log

2. Now click Add or hit the enter/return button on the keyboard - contact is added to the log -Cursor returns to call sign field ready for the next entry

If something else is happening I suggest its a problem on your set up and recommend an uninstall and reinstall of Log4OM

I have checked this again on an XP service pack 3 machine and it all works as designed, additionally there are no other reported issues from any other users about this.
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Terry,
I'm absolutely certain I'm clicking "send spot" where you've indicated.
In my case, starting on page 44 of the manual and going step by step it does not work.

I enter the call in the "callsign" window. It bring up the correct info from QRZ, I click the globe, the "send spot" window pops up,
I enter the info such as "up 2" etc and click "send spot" exactly where you have indicated.
At this point the spot is sent to the cluster correctly and all is well. I would then expect the call to be added to my log and the "callsign" window be cleared for the next contact. Less desirably, I would expect simply hit "enter" again to enter the contact into my log.
Again, in my case this does not work at all.
After sending the spot by clicking "send spot" exactly how you've indicate, the callsign remains in the "callsign" window. ( at this point you tell me how it should be entered into the log If I'm doing it incorrectly)
While the callsign remains in the window I hit "enter", a second "send spot" window pops up as you can see.
From here the only way to log the call is to:
1> place the cursor back in the "callsign" window and hit "enter"
OR
2> click the green "add" button.

On two separate computers that I take to the field I'm running Window XP Service Pack 3.
Computer #1
1.5 gHz processor speed with 3 gigs of ram and one terabyte hard drive 91% free space
Computer#2
1.4 gHz processor speed with 2 gigs ram and 500 gig hard drive with 382 gigs of free space.

I've tried many different ways to work around it but so far none have worked.
I'm open to suggestions and can probably put a video on Youtube for you to see if needed. (private link)

Thanks,
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Sorry,
That last post was after a reload of Log4OM on both computers....
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Hi Randy,

Let me take a crack at this. First off, when you send a spot report, it does not log that contact. Log4OM was not designed to do that. Those are two different operations.

I just tried this - send a spot by clicking on the Send Spot button, then press the enter key, I do get the same behavior as you get, another small spot window opens. That might not be expected behavior. However, if after you click the Send Spot button, if you move the cursor away from the green Spot "globe", and then press the enter key, your qso will be logged. So the problem appears to be that focus stays on the green Spot globe after you send the spot. And if focus is on the globe and you press the enter key, its like clicking on the globe again.

In practice, I log first, then send a spot. My first priority is to work them, then log them, and then if I have something to add to the spots already spotted, I will spot them. So I have never run across this behavior. But I will report this to Daniele.

I hope this helps,

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That's exactly correct Doug, thanks for verifying. I guess I'm just so accustomed to all my other loggers doing a "spot on entry" that it is just cumbersome to have to tab through things before entering or spotting. Actually instead of clicking in any of the other windows to remove the focus from the globe I "tab" after "send spot" at that takes the focus to the green add button. An enter there will add it to the log.
I wonder if after bringing up the "send spot" window the focus could default the cursor into that window instead of having to mouse in or click in that window to type the spot info? That would make it somewhat more user friendly.
Thanks for the reply, it was most helpful.

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Thanks Randy. I have added this to the Mantis list.

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