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I'm just getting started with the impressive Log4OM, having imported a recently updated ADIF from Rumlog. I believe all the relevant passwords have been entered into Log4OM, and I did read the relevant section of the manual. Seem to be stuck on a few of points and would appreciate any guidance, if only to the right page of the manual.
A few issues:
1: - Trying to upload a single QSO to LOTW prompts an error message: "station location can not be found."
2: - Log indicates that the imported QSOs are "requested" though I don't believe that's true. I'm not sure how to reset that flag, and I'm not really understanding the default settings that have been applied.
3: - initial RUMlog import seem to have gone ok, but subsequent imports from recent N1MM all have the "requested" flag set
4: - I'm unclear on the "search confirmation" window, which check boxes need to be clicked, and what settings to use. I'm simply wanting to find new QSO confirmations to download.

In short, I'm not really being successful with either uploads or downloads to LOTW.
If anyone has written a book called Log4OM QSL Manager for Dummies, I'm your prime reader! Any help appreciated. Bill / KG6NRV

KG6NRV wrote: 08 May 2020, 15:54 I'm just getting started with the impressive Log4OM, having imported a recently updated ADIF from Rumlog. I believe all the relevant passwords have been entered into Log4OM, and I did read the relevant section of the manual. Seem to be stuck on a few of points and would appreciate any guidance, if only to the right page of the manual.
A few issues:
1: - Trying to upload a single QSO to LOTW prompts an error message: "station location can not be found."
2: - Log indicates that the imported QSOs are "requested" though I don't believe that's true. I'm not sure how to reset that flag, and I'm not really understanding the default settings that have been applied.
3: - initial RUMlog import seem to have gone ok, but subsequent imports from recent N1MM all have the "requested" flag set
4: - I'm unclear on the "search confirmation" window, which check boxes need to be clicked, and what settings to use. I'm simply wanting to find new QSO confirmations to download.

In short, I'm not really being successful with either uploads or downloads to LOTW.
If anyone has written a book called Log4OM QSL Manager for Dummies, I'm your prime reader! Any help appreciated. Bill / KG6NRV

Bill,

First off I'm assuming that you are using Version 2.5.0.0 of Log4OM V2 ??

1 - Are you doing a single Q upload from the QSL Manager? That could be an error message from LOTW / TQSL. Screen clips of that would be helpful.
2 - The initial/default setting for all Q's in Log4OM V2 is "Requested". This falls in line with the ADIF v3 standard. You can change that if you like at: Settings / Program Configuration / Confirmations ... then select each of the External Services from the drop-down and change as you see fit for your operation. All future saved Q's will then have that new setting. I don't recommend changing it until you are comfortable with the overall operation of V2.
3 - Was your RUMlog saved at an ADIF v3 level? If not it might not have all possible data that may have been available in that APP. The N1MM import with "Requested" in the Sent & Rcvd fields is what is the default in V2. Not sure why it did not apply same to your RUMlog ADIF import.
4 - Take a look at some of the YouTube videos that Terry has produced. They will address some of the items you have questioned above. Terry's YouTube Videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6Ppcj ... yavI-azOug
5 - Download the "current" release of the User Guide: Help / User Guide / English (force update) ... The most current UG will download and open in your preferred PDF viewer. Make it a habit to check often for new versions as Terry is updating the UG sometimes multiples times each week.
6 - Go to Page 74 of the "current" UG where it goes into QSO Confirmations. It explains about the labels and then into manual uploads and automatic uploads. A good place to start for your items above along with Terry's YouTube videos.
7 - Make sure you have also downloaded and reviewed the Quick Start Guide from the main Log4OM website. It does a good basic step-by-step as well. Log4OM V2 Quick Start Guide: https://www.log4om.com/download/

Welcome aboard and thanks very much for using Log4OM V2.

Hi Nolan, thanks for the detailed reply and resources.

Yes, I am on a current version of the Log4OM.

The Rumlog export version of ADIF is not mentioned in the manual. Is there some why I can determine that by looking at the file? FWIW I'm also on a current version of Rumlog.

You mentioned that the single upload error was possibly from LOTW, and that appears to be the case. This error appears on any QSO, so it has nothing to do with the station involved. Also a syntax error appears on the screen. I am attempting to upload a screenshot though for some reason the 280K png file won't upload to the forum, "file too large" error. I guess it's just not my day for uploads.

Anyway, I put it on Dropbox, and hopefully you can see it here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uubhqd1bwylim ... r.png?dl=0

QSL status: I'm unclear if the "requested" status can be changed for QSOs already in the log. Also, wondering why that is the default setting if the QSO has never left the computer? Makes no sense to me. I did see a video where "nil" was the suggested default setting, though I believe that was an earlier version of the program.

Thanks again for all the tips; I've got some reading and watching to do. 73

KG6NRV wrote: 08 May 2020, 23:21 Hi Nolan, thanks for the detailed reply and resources.

Yes, I am on a current version of the Log4OM.

The Rumlog export version of ADIF is not mentioned in the manual. Is there some why I can determine that by looking at the file? FWIW I'm also on a current version of Rumlog.

You mentioned that the single upload error was possibly from LOTW, and that appears to be the case. This error appears on any QSO, so it has nothing to do with the station involved. Also a syntax error appears on the screen. I am attempting to upload a screenshot though for some reason the 280K png file won't upload to the forum, "file too large" error. I guess it's just not my day for uploads.

Anyway, I put it on Dropbox, and hopefully you can see it here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uubhqd1bwylim ... r.png?dl=0

QSL status: I'm unclear if the "requested" status can be changed for QSOs already in the log. Also, wondering why that is the default setting if the QSO has never left the computer? Makes no sense to me. I did see a video where "nil" was the suggested default setting, though I believe that was an earlier version of the program.

Thanks again for all the tips; I've got some reading and watching to do. 73

Bill,

RUMlog may only provide one level of ADIF export. Many logging programs offer a couple various levels that can then export more data elements saved by the logging program than just the basics.

Don't watch (or if you did ... forget what you saw) any videos related to V1 of Log4OM. Very little of those "mature" videos will have any relation to how Log4OM V2 is operating. It is on a completely new database structure and virtually everything is handled differently.

Take some time to go through the Quick Start Guide (some of that will be 'old business' to you, but it won't hurt to have a refresh with you being a new user of Log4OM V2. Spend some time to watch Terry's YouTube videos. He has done them in sequence from the initial start-up and configuration and then on to many of the elements that are most-used.

Be sure that your station information, etc., is as accurate as it can be. Also, when you set up your External Sources (IE: HamQTH, HRDLog, Clublog, LOTW, eQSL) logins and passwords, be sure they are correct. Do not 'copy/paste' ... hand-key them in. Also for the LOTW (TQSL) login/password make sure you don't use the special characters that won't be accepted by TQSL, etc..

I think Terry used 'nil' in a V1 video and don't recall him using it in a V2 video, but it has been a few months since I've seen them all.

The "Requested" information label will be made more clear as you get into the UG and related to 'confirmations'. Again ... "Requested" is now the accepted/preferred verbiage for Q's that have been saved in a log and have NOT YET been uploaded (manually or automatically) or mailed by the OM. Once those Q's have been mailed/uploaded V2 will change the Requested label to "Yes" in the 'sent' field. As for mailing a paper QSL card it is up to the OM to change the Requested to Yes.

Now ... Many OM's (older fogeys like myself) came up with Q's having a "No" in the sent field and once sent they get a "Yes". Those OM's do then change the default from Requested to No and go on their way. I would hold off on making any grand switches until you get a good handle on that and the related changes you will have to tweak.

As I've noted earlier ... the "Requested" label is from the ADIF Standard V3 requirements that set the standards for such data. I can assure you that not everyone is in love with what they are doing, but they are the recognized standard bearer for the ADIF rules. Here is a link to the ADIF Standard that will totally make your head swim. ADIF 3.0.6 http://adif.org.uk/306/ADIF_306.htm

Again ... take your time and one step at a time and try not to get too far ahead of the basics to ensure you have a solid base of data in V2 for everything to work well for you.

KG6NRV wrote: 08 May 2020, 15:54
1: - Trying to upload a single QSO to LOTW prompts an error message: "station location can not be found."

This issue is usually caused by a recent download of the TQSL program which changed the station location checks.

If you have recently updated TQSL then in TQSL look at your station location name and ensure that EXACTLY the same name with the same punctuation, spaces and upper/lower case is set in the Log4OM Program Configuration.

2: - Log indicates that the imported QSOs are "requested" though I don't believe that's true. I'm not sure how to reset that flag, and I'm not really understanding the default settings that have been applied.
3: - initial RUMlog import seem to have gone ok, but subsequent imports from recent N1MM all have the "requested" flag set
4: - I'm unclear on the "search confirmation" window, which check boxes need to be clicked, and what settings to use. I'm simply wanting to find new QSO confirmations to download.

These issues are all explained in the user guide, YouTube tutorials and our FAQ section on this forum

OK, the LOTW error was due to the fact that I moved the certificate from my Mac to the new Windows laptop. I didn't realize that I also needed to export/import the configuration that includes the station location and other information. It looks like the download process does work now. But...

I'm not able to upload QSOs from my log, as the TQSL software is prompting me for a password, the password "that you made up when installing the certificate." Unfortunately I can find no record of that, and I tried all the LOTW related passwords I could find in my password manager. So I think the only option is to request a new cert from ARRL, which I've already done.

Is it normal that a password must be entered upon moving a certificate? Or perhaps I've done something else wrong?

KG6NRV wrote: 09 May 2020, 19:49

Is it normal that a password must be entered upon moving a certificate? Or perhaps I've done something else wrong?

Not something I have heard of before but LOTW constantly change the goal posts

Bill,

I've never used the 'local' password for my TQSL certificate. Not needed for operation on your local machine if it is not for public use.

Link to LOTW - TQSL: https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/removec ... epassword/

Yes, and therein lies my error. I sure won't use a password when the next certificate arrives! Thanks for reply 73 de Bill Alpert/ KG6NRV

Just posted a new YouTube video about confirmations here:

https://youtu.be/7yuxJhVEFFI