Log4OM

I have noticed that when I change modes from SSB to RTTY or PSK on my radio (IC-7800) that Log3OM 1.17.1.0 stays on SSB. (Changing to CW or AM or FM does change mode OK.) I am using OmniRig as the rig control thingo. I am sure I have missed a setting somewhere, would someone kindly point me in the right direction..

thanks
John

Hmm, I have an IC-7600 and it does the same thing - mode reflected in Log4OM if changed on the rig to SSB, CW or AM, but not RTTY or PSK. Never noticed that. I am connected via USB cable direct to computer for rig control, and using OmniRig.

Doug
W7DRM

Setting the status according to the mode is possible only if supported by the rig, and if it's supported in your rig config file.

There is an option in Settings -> CAT & Cluster that you should try: Maybe this helps

73
Daniele

IW3HMH wrote:Setting the status according to the mode is possible only if supported by the rig, and if it's supported in your rig config file.

There is an option in Settings -> CAT & Cluster that you should try:

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Maybe this helps

73
Daniele

Hi Daniele. Thankyou for the suggestion. I made the changes to my setup and restarted Log4om but unfortunately, the log window still stays on SSB when I change the radio to RTTY or PSK... My radio also has a DATA button. I tried that also but no change.

Does this mean that there is no way for Log4om to show the modes RTTY / PSK on the logging page other than by setting it manually ???

If this is so, maybe some excellent programmer could wtite a radio interface just for log4om so that it works (like HRD and N1MM already have)... then we could do away with Hamlib and Omnirig.... I wish I was an expert programmer


73
John

John,
Your rig should follow the mode for RTTY, not so sure about PSK! I recall we have had this come up before and it was a couple of lines in the Omnirig file that required changing.

When I get time I will compare the Omnirig file with the 7800 user guide to see what requires changing in the Omnirig file.

G4POP wrote:John,
Your rig should follow the mode for RTTY, not so sure about PSK! I recall we have had this come up before and it was a couple of lines in the Omnirig file that required changing.

When I get time I will compare the Omnirig file with the 7800 user guide to see what requires changing in the Omnirig file.

OK I checked the Omnirig ini file and there is no actual provision for RTTY or PSK, although there is for DIG-U and DIG-L (Digital modes) which if the commands are the same as my ProIII correspond to RTTY-U and RTTY-L

[pmDIG_L]
FEFE6AE00608FD which is Dig-R RTTY Reverse Mode on the ProIII

and

[pmDIG-U]
FEFE6AE00608FD which is Dig-U RTTY Mode on the ProIII

When you click a digital spot on the Log4OM cluster what does the mode change to on the rig - Please try this with the "Cat will switch to Digital" check box checked and also unchecked.

There has always been an issue with changing Icom rigs to the USB-D and LSB-D modes for PSK because of the Icom command structure.

I also seem to recall that the RTTY mode change is one way traffic - Usually a Digital (RTTY) command sent from the software changes the rig mode to RTTY but changing the rig mode to RTTY on the rig did not send the command to the software but my memory is hazy on this and without having a 7800 in front of me I cannot check.

VK7XX wrote: Does this mean that there is no way for Log4om to show the modes RTTY / PSK on the logging page other than by setting it manually ???

Yes, because the rig reports the same mode (DIG) and this can be used by more than one digital mode, so it's impossible to know what is the modulation sent to the rig by your PC...
Radio is in "digital mode", and this is the only information we receive. The radio itself will not know what is the protocol going through the audio input... it's a simple sound...

Other softwares that have a DIGITAL INTERFACE will tell the logger "this is the mode i'm using", but this information will not come from the rig itself, but from the software that is pushing the audio signal to the rig. Rig doesn't know anything about (except maybe for some high-end rigs that has explicit PSK31 or RTTY functions). If you set rig in DIG mode even in HRD without DM780 the logger doesn't know anything about the rig, except that the rig is ready to transmit digital audio and has filters set to this "category".

If this is so, maybe some excellent programmer could wtite a radio interface just for log4om so that it works (like HRD and N1MM already have)... then we could do away with Hamlib and Omnirig.... I wish I was an expert programmer

I did that... 20-30 rigs supported with "basic" features... but actually it's idle and not under active development

73
Daniele IW3HMH

G4POP wrote:

G4POP wrote:John,
Your rig should follow the mode for RTTY, not so sure about PSK! I recall we have had this come up before and it was a couple of lines in the Omnirig file that required changing.

When I get time I will compare the Omnirig file with the 7800 user guide to see what requires changing in the Omnirig file.

OK I checked the Omnirig ini file and there is no actual provision for RTTY or PSK, although there is for DIG-U and DIG-L (Digital modes) which if the commands are the same as my ProIII correspond to RTTY-U and RTTY-L

[pmDIG_L]
FEFE6AE00608FD which is Dig-R RTTY Reverse Mode on the ProIII

and

[pmDIG-U]
FEFE6AE00608FD which is Dig-U RTTY Mode on the ProIII

When you click a digital spot on the Log4OM cluster what does the mode change to on the rig - Please try this with the "Cat will switch to Digital" check box checked and also unchecked.

....<some deleted>....

I have never used the cluster before so here we go...............

with 'Cat will switch to Digital" enabled, clicking on a PSK31 spot changes the rig to RTTY-R
clicking on a RTTY spot also changes the radio to RTTY-R
(I experimented, and even if I leave the radio on RTTY, clicking changes it to RTTY-R)
And of course, even though the radio does change, the 'Mode' on the log page stays at SSB.. I'll just have to remember to change it..... not easy for me some days... I logged a whole heap of JT65 qso's the other day as JT-9 'cause if forgot to change the mode... duhhhhh me bad. (but I did edit em before sending em to LOTW/eQSL... so now you see why I use manual uploading

Anyway, back to the job at hand.... with "Cat will switch to Digital" unchecked, clicking on RTTY or PKS does nothing.

This is a start, but I would prefer that the radio change to RTTY, not RTTY-R. Knowing zip/zero/zilch & nothing about Omnirig, is there a line in the .INI I can change to make the switch just RTTY & not RTTY-R ???


John

Just emailed you a modified IC7800 Omnirig ini file

G4POP wrote:Just emailed you a modified IC7800 Omnirig ini file

talk about excellent service !!!! Thank you Terry. when I click a cluster spot now, the radio changes to RTTY, instead of RTTY-R... great stuff.

now, whats my name again ??

oh yeah, John