So why am I seeing this spot?

[HB9VQQ]

Hey Rich, hw r u ?

So why do you think I am logging into the same cluster at last twice Doug?

It seems you have two Active Server connections both using VE7CC Cluster, one local via CC user (Secondary) and one directly connecting to VE7CC.net on port 7373 (Primary). If you disconnect from both cluster and open the Realtime log under Help and then reconnect, you'll see the connection to both of your configured Active ClusterServers.

1.) Are you using the same SSID for both connections ?
2.) How does your CC user setup look like under Bands -- My Filter ? Is it ticked ?

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Because "My Filter" enabled (ticked) = sh/mydx

73
Roland

[KD0ZV]

Roland,

I really don't use CC user on a regular basis. I just opened it and yes "My filter" is ticked.

In the end I would like to only use the Cluster in Log4OM but I could see myself setting up filtering in CC user. Then using sh/mydx.

That is correct?

I would assume I was on the same SSID (since neither was set).

So again, I really do not want to run CC User as it does not check spots against my log. But since Log4OM does not have the ability to filter at the level as CC user I would only be using it to set filter commands as it would be easier than doing it at a command level in Log4OM.

Make sense or am I off track?

Appreciate you guys help.

Rich

[HB9VQQ]

Hi Rich,

I really don't use CC user on a regular basis. I just opened it and yes "My filter" is ticked.

that is exactly why you see historic old spots. "My filter" equals to the command "sh/mydx" which are not processed at all by Log4OM filtering.

So if you don't wan to use CC user, remove your localhost entry in the Active Servers window. But keep in mind, some functionality regarding filtering is only available if you use CC user. I am talking about keyword filtering. To my knowledge there is no cluster command on the command line to filter on keywords like "FT8" or "CW". http://bcdxc.org/ve7cc/ccc/CCC_Commands.htm

CC user provides far superior filtering features than Log4OM today. That's why I am using CC user to do the most of the filtering, to only pass pre-filtered spots to Log4OM.

Hope this helps. Seems this topic can be quite a scientific one Masters Degree of DX Cluster hihi

Cheers
Roland

[KD0ZV]

Roland,

I do not want to remove my localhost entry because that is where my CWskimmer spots are coming from.

I am going to remove the "My filter" because I would like to have two VE7CC connections with different SSIDs. One filtered, one not that I could switch between.

I have interest to learn more about cluster stuff and have jumped into that in the last couple days. NC7J had a great video on YouTube which was titled part 1 but he never came out with part 2. Or at least I could not find it.

Thanks again for your help.

Rich

[NN7D]

Rich,

As Roland mentioned, you could get an advanced degree in Cluster Management... There is a lot of misunderstanding out there. I am no expert, but I've been through much of what you are going through.

I do not want to remove my localhost entry because that is where my CWskimmer spots are coming from.

Assuming you have CC User connected to VE7CC, then there is no reason to have that localhost connected. Keep in mind, that whatever filters you set in CC User, including CW Skimmer spots on, you can close down CC User and connect with one single connection to VE7CC and have all those filters apply to your spot stream. VE7CC cluster remembers all your filter settings which you made in CC User, or for that matter using cluster commands.

At such time that you want to change those filters, just open CC User, make your changes, close CC User, then stop and restart the cluster in Log4OM for those changes to take affect. And note, there is now a toggled Cluster Connect, Disconnect button to the right of the Elevation control on the Main UI.
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I am going to remove the "My filter" because I would like to have two VE7CC connections with different SSIDs. One filtered, one not that I could switch between.

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That is something which I did not realize that Roland mentioned - the Missed Spots panel on the Band tab of CC User. But I think you need to have Missed Spots Enabled check box checked for that to take affect.

As far as switching between two VE7CC connections, one filtered and one not, then you would need to use a SSID of say 1 for the filtered one, then use a SSID higher than (I believe its 14 or 15) which you can set (using CC User with same high SSID), with no filters. Then you would have to manually switch between the two in Log4OM. But you can't have both listed in the Cluster Management screen under Active servers, or they will both connect, and what would be the point of that?

I hope this helps.

Doug - W7DRM

[KD0ZV]

Doug,

Yes, I have two SSIDs now. One is set to SSID 1 and the other one is SSID 20.

As far as Skimmer spots. They are from my CWskimmer which is why I am using Localhost. Am I missing something?

Rich

[NN7D]

Rich,

Sorry, I did not catch that you were using your own copy of CW Skimmer. Understand, and yes that makes sense to have 2 connections. Press on!

73,
Doug - W7DRM

[HB9VQQ]

But I think you need to have Missed Spots Enabled check box checked for that to take affect

If you have "Missed Spots" and "My Filter" enabled in CC user = sh/mydx/100 (referring to my screenshot).
I was also unaware that you are using your own skimmer, now understanding your requirement to leave localhost as is. However you could use CW Skimmer Spots directly from VE7CC.net with SET/SKIMMER.

But I guesstimate you are running your local CW skimmer for some reason.

73
Roland

[KD0ZV]

But I guesstimate you are running your local CW skimmer for some reason.

Yes, it works 100 x better. I can actually hear all of them or they would not show up in my cluster

Not to mention we don't have any skimmers that I know of in my state. So that compounds the issue.

But the way I have it setup I can run skimmer on 4 bands which is the number of receivers my Flex has and watch for new ones on Log4OM

Thanks guys.

I have it working right now with mydx filtering and that works pretty good.

Had no clue I did not have to run CC user all the time. I do not understand why people link CC user to Log4om using the "logging program connection" with a local telnet port. Must be a reason??

Rich
kd0zv

[KD0ZV]

Just to follow up.

The spot age still does not seem to work as I see spots 6 hours old even when I have it set to 30 minutes.

sh/mydx is not in my settings. My filter is not set in CC User

Not really noticeable unless you have the spotter filtered down so the cluster is not moving much. But seems Log4om should filter those out per the settings.

NOT a big deal

Rich